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New owner, are these values any good?

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#1 OFFLINE   spacekid

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 05:19 AM

Hi all,

 

First time poster long time lurker :)

Just bought the car and grateful for this resource.

Car: 2013 Energi.

60k miles

 

Drove all EV this morning as long as I could.

Looking at the screenshot from the app, are these battery values good or should I consider returning the car?

 

Sorry if this is posted in the wrong place.

 

Thanks,

Spacekid

 

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#2 OFFLINE   Levi Smith

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 07:01 AM

Well, if that is what you could get out of a full charge/drive in EV mode then that battery is definitely worn.  Though not at all unheard of, especially in warmer climates.  But yeah, I'd say 5KWH is around what you'd like to aim for.  I think I recall something around 5.4KWH being about the max when the cars are new.  My 2013 used to do about 5.1KWH, this year its down to about 4.8KWH.  So at 3.8KWH you've lost a good chunk.

 

As for whether to return it or not, it depends on whether this meets your needs/what your other options are.  

 

In my case, 3KWH is about what it takes me to get to work somewhat comfortably 12 miles without heat.  But the return trip would be about double that.  And in the winter I'd need to about double those values again with the heat on comfortably.  So I just make the trip to work in EV and then switch to gas.



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Posted 07 May 2019 - 07:27 AM

Thank you. I have about 20 miles one way to work so bit of a stretch to make it all the way in EV even if the battery was new.

The weather here is nice and "cool" right now and only had to run the a/c on low so worried it will get worse once the heat kicks in.

I'll run another measure tomorrow. FYI this screenshot is after getting to work, the engine started about 3/4 on my route here.

Should I pull over when the engine kicks in and see what the kWh is then to get a more accurate reading?



#4 OFFLINE   Levi Smith

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 07:30 AM

The AC will eat a little bit, but it's relatively low.  The heat is what really sucks down the power.

 

I find the easiest way is with a fully charged battery to reset one of the trip meters, put it in EV mode and then see what your KWH reads on the display about the time you switch to hybrid mode and/or the ICE kicks on.



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Posted 07 May 2019 - 07:35 AM

When you say display are you talking on the app on the phone, as I can't find any KWH reading on the car's dashboard. 



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Posted 07 May 2019 - 07:40 AM

In the car.  On the left screen on the dash, you should be able to use the left controller on the steering wheel to change.

 

Something like....

Left click to give you a menu, then select trip meters, then hold OK down for like 5 seconds to reset the trip meter.



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Posted 07 May 2019 - 07:45 AM

Ok, cool I'll check tonight!


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#8 OFFLINE   Levi Smith

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 07:52 AM

Here, this isn't the best video, things look slightly different, but it might give you some ideas of things you haven't yet found on those screens.

https://www.youtube....h?v=fOFpSGd1pWs



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Posted 07 May 2019 - 09:01 AM

Thank you that's very helpful! I'll try tomorrow on my commute to work



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Posted 07 May 2019 - 05:28 PM

That battery is worn out.  Someone before you used it exclusively engine might be quite new.  You should be able to get 5.5kwh out of a battery, mine is 2 years old and still can produce that.  Depends on how you treat it.  If there is another cmax to swap with you might want to try that one to see if the battery is any better, that is if it has all the options you want.

 

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 05:27 AM

Here's what I got this morning with the trip meter. Consistent with yesterday.

So looks like 3.8Kwh out of the battery. Battery has 8 year warranty or 100k where I am, would it be possible to get it on warranty down the line if it gets worse?

I don't have many nice c-max options around me and mainly bought it for my commute and around town and it's in really good condition except for the battery then I guess...

Just as a gas saver using it in Auto mode I think I still be getting some value out of it right?

What will be the consequence of a bad battery running it as an hybrid?

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#12 OFFLINE   Levi Smith

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Posted 08 May 2019 - 05:39 AM

You could try, I think there may have been one person who got Ford to replace a worn battery.  but generally speaking it doesn't seem that you'll get Ford to replace a battery unless it is actually causing a problem with the car.

 

Yes, it should be fine as it is.  You just have less EV range.  Otherwise it should be about the same.  Theoretically the battery might die sooner, but I can't recall anyone actually getting to that point yet.

 

Here's what I got this morning with the trip meter. Consistent with yesterday.

So looks like 3.8Kwh out of the battery. Battery has 8 year warranty or 100k where I am, would it be possible to get it on warranty down the line if it gets worse?

I don't have many nice c-max options around me and mainly bought it for my commute and around town and it's in really good condition.

Just as a gas saver using it in Auto move I think I still be ok right?

What will be the consequence of a bad battery running it as an hybrid?


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