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#61 OFFLINE   Andrew Roberts

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Posted 01 May 2014 - 06:37 PM

Had a 2004 Cherokee through high school and college. Right when I started making money gas prices started going up. I bought a new honda civic coupe. I was stoked to be getting 30 off the freeway and 35 on. 

 

My father was driving a Patriot at the time and got jealous i was getting 500 a tank to his 230. So he one upped me and got a Volt. 

 

He left the country for a month and a test drove the volt around. 

 

I didn't use a drop of gas in 30 days of driving it. 

 

He came back and I quickly got really uncomfortable getting gas and started looking at cars. I wasn't getting a Volt because my dad has it and my Girlfriend's family has a Ford dealership. 

 

I really wanted the Fusion Energi but I really needed to be able to get 4 sets of clubs in the trunk (something the volt and fusion cant do.)

 

C-max it is!

 

I figured i would save about $100 a month in gas (actually saving 140!!!) so I went to the dealer, pointed at a C-max with a $38,000 price tag and told the guy I will give you my car (still owed 13k) for this cmax and $400 payments on a 15k mile a month lease. 

 

He told me probably not and later that after noon they made it happen with the the maintenance plan included.!!!

 

I'm saving $50 a month versus the civic and that doesn't include the $1500 check the state gave me that will pay for all of my gas for the 3 years I have the car!









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#62 OFFLINE   GuyFromCanada

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 04:59 AM

The C-Max is only my second car. When I finished university I got a decent job, I bought a brand new 2005 Toyota Corolla. After nine years of service, a few things had changed. The car was still very reliable (I never had a problem with the car in all those years) but still, it started showing its age. Spots of rust, new cracking noises, usual wear and tear ! I also now have two kids. So I told my GF that it was time for a change.

 

Why the C-Max ? because I can't afford a Tesla model S and the C-Max is the next best thing :)



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Posted 02 May 2014 - 05:03 AM

Before purchasing my NRG, our household owned a Volt and a GMC Terrain. I absolutely fell in love with the Volt (and still enjoy it today as much as the day we purchased it). My better half ended up as the daily driver of the Volt, due to her usually driving more miles than me each day (35+ for her versus <20 for me). So our old family hauler, the Terrain, ended up turning exclusively into my commuter/camping car. Being spoiled by the Volt's electric drive, I pretty much looked at the GMC as a hunk of metal that got me from home to work. I also didn't like the fact I was burning gas away at 23 mpg.

 

I got the GMC appraised at CarMax, just for fun, and their offer ended up being a lot more than I expected (more than a pristine Terrain on KBB), so that is when I started considering another EV. The Volt is very nice, but it didn't meet the 5 seat requirement needed for 2nd car. A Tesla is way out of my price range, so among the other EVs on the market, the NRG was the only one that met all my needs: 5 seats, 20 mile pure EV range, more cargo space than the Volt. Unfortunately, I believed at the time the NRG's rear cargo capacity was still way too small for our family. A visit to my local Ford dealership more or less confirmed my fears of the tiny cargo space. Our next family car needed to be able to hold 4 people + all our camping gear.

 

It wasn't until I found the Thule Transporter 665C hitch-mount cargo box that I truly believed an NRG would work for our family. My local dealer had 2 leftover '13 NRGs available, and I almost ended up purchasing one of them, but both of them ended up selling before I could pull the trigger. :( I contacted a few other dealerships in the area, and one in a neighboring state had 2 fully loaded '13 NRGs, and they were marked down pretty well. The wife was not fond of an outright purchase, but luckily this dealership offered a pretty crazy 24 month lease deal, at least in my eyes ($1k down, $304 a month, 24 months, 10.5k miles, fully loaded White Platinum. This was better than Ford's national lease offer on a base model!).

 

So now we are a 100% EV family. I can complete my roundtrip work commute on battery power alone (well, not sure about in the winter yet), and out of the 1,000 miles I've driven so far, 88% have been EV miles.

 

I'm hoping in 2 years some manufacturer will have a PHEV SUV on the market. Until then, I will enjoy the NRG the next 23 months. :smile2:

 

 

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#64 OFFLINE   Mike Taylor

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Posted 05 May 2014 - 06:04 PM

The NRG is my first electric car. My parents had a Prius and my daughter just bought a Prius C which she loves. My driving habits made a plug-in seem viable. My previous car (still here for my son) is a '98 Malibu with 75,000 miles on it - I have short commutes! This makes the 20ish mile EV range perfect for me. I looked hard at the Volt but really didn't like the visibility in the car - not to mention that their salesman knew nothing about the car at all and the finance manager proposed an absolutely terrible lease deal - made me too disgusted to even negotiate.

 

I'm not sure where/how the tech will change in the next few years so I went with a 3 year lease on the CMax. The Ford sales guy was very knowledgable about the car and took a great deal of time explaining all the features as well as trying various buying/leasing scenarios out. 

 

I'm on the East coast (PA) and there are far fewer charging stations. My workplace doesn't offer charging but my round trip is under 10 miles - so its not a problem.

 

EDIT - Forgot to mention, my only other Ford was ...um...a Pinto, so I'm confident the C-Max will be a step up :) 


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Posted 10 December 2014 - 02:28 PM

In college I had a couple of beaters - a Mustang II, and an Escort.  After graduation the first car I bought was a used Toyota Celica GTS (the worst car I ever owned).  Then I got a job at Ford and leased a Taurus SHO, then a couple of Explorers.  Left Ford and eventually bought a 2004 Volvo S60R.  Drove Inga until just recently when the maintenance costs started to add up & as my daily driver I didn't always have time to fix her and drive her to work the next day.  I've always thought that the EV technology was cool and the C-max fit my needs almost perfectly (would prefer a little more room in an Escape Energi, but maybe for my next car).  Everyone is amazed when I tell them that I've driven over 1200 miles and haven't put gas in it yet, though I'm down to about 3/8 tank so that will come soon, probably within the next month :smile2:



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Posted 06 March 2017 - 05:53 AM

While I'm technically not an owner yet... it's right around the corner... cool Old thread though...

I'm a road warrior, these have been my cars and jobs...

First job out of college I bought a brand New Plymouth Voyager and hit the road as a photographer. I had that for two season... just about two years and put 80,000 miles on it.

Sold the Plymouth & bought an F150 and a 5th wheel camper... put 130,000 on that in 4 years. Great truck , wish I hadn't sold it...

Got off the road for a bit, so I sold the ford, and leased a Saturn SW2. Loved the wagon, put 42,000 miles on before I turned it in.

Back on the road for a few years, got a used Caravan,
Off the road again I got a Mazda Protégé then a Jeep Cherokee, a Chevy Astro, a Buick Regal, Suzuki Swift (Geo with 4 cylinders).

From there I got a GMC Sonoma, Buick Rendezvous , Buick Century .

Two years as a courier pushed me into serious fuel sipping... the rendezvous was replaced with an aveo, not the best on fuel, but it was economical enough it met an untimely end and was replaced by my current Prius. Bought my wife a Ford Escape Hybrid as well...

That led me to looking for another Ford Hybrid. I love hers, but she wont give up Her Truck. The Prius will be semi retired until my youngest son gets his license, then it will be his first car.

#67 OFFLINE   Jonathan Ezor

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Posted 06 March 2017 - 08:35 AM

I got a new job and my commute went from 20-ish highway miles each way, little or no traffic, 3 or so times per week to 67 highway miles each way, lots of stop-and-go traffic, 4 times per week. The Taurus I was driving, comfortable cruiser that it was, suddenly required three full tanks of gas per week. That, plus my height (6 feet) and the presence of a Level 2 charger at my new job and no Level 2 charger (at that point) at home, along with general years of satisfaction with Ford, led me to the Energi, and my 4'11" wife's ability to potentially drive the C-MAX comfortably, and inability to do so in the Fusion, led us to the C-MAX Energi. {Jonathan}


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#68 OFFLINE   altabrig

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 12:19 PM

While I'm technically not an owner yet... it's right around the corner... cool Old thread though...

I'm a road warrior, these have been my cars and jobs...

First job out of college I bought a brand New Plymouth Voyager and hit the road as a photographer. I had that for two season... just about two years and put 80,000 miles on it.

Sold the Plymouth & bought an F150 and a 5th wheel camper... put 130,000 on that in 4 years. Great truck , wish I hadn't sold it...

Got off the road for a bit, so I sold the ford, and leased a Saturn SW2. Loved the wagon, put 42,000 miles on before I turned it in.

Back on the road for a few years, got a used Caravan,
Off the road again I got a Mazda Protégé then a Jeep Cherokee, a Chevy Astro, a Buick Regal, Suzuki Swift (Geo with 4 cylinders).

From there I got a GMC Sonoma, Buick Rendezvous , Buick Century .

Two years as a courier pushed me into serious fuel sipping... the rendezvous was replaced with an aveo, not the best on fuel, but it was economical enough it met an untimely end and was replaced by my current Prius. Bought my wife a Ford Escape Hybrid as well...

That led me to looking for another Ford Hybrid. I love hers, but she wont give up Her Truck. The Prius will be semi retired until my youngest son gets his license, then it will be his first car.

Hope you get a nice one.   Read the threads with regards to taking care of the HVB (traction/plug in battery).    Long story short - to get a longer life and maintain capacity without serious degradation early on in the battery life, the Cmax batteries have to be kid gloved a lot more than the marketing department would have you know prior to sale.  Basically, if they get hot, are charged hot and/or driven fast in EV  they die quick.   Keep it cool, charge it cool and don't drive it fast on EV and keep your capacity longer.



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Posted 02 February 2018 - 05:42 PM

I much like the OP was raised on Fords, I came home from the hospital in a '73 Mercury Capri, learnt to drive a '91 Topaz and my first car was a '95 Escort wagon.

 

Since then, I've had an 02 Focus wagon that I replaced with a '10 Dodge Grand Caravan that I needed as my family situation changed, I then added a second car to my fleet, a '97 V8 T-bird which I inherited from my folks, -it was a pig on fuel and maintenance- a couple of years later I inherited an '05 Focus ZX5.

 

I was pretty happy with my situation but then a few things happened to cause the stars to align for the CMAX.

 

They installed EV charging on campus at the university  where I'm a mature student. (its almost exactly 40 km from my driveway)

 

Last summer I had to hit up the parts counter at a local dealer for some focus parts that NAPA didn't carry.

I saw a  CMAX on the showroom floor and kicked the tyres on it.

 

At the time I kinda ran some numbers in my head to see if I could justify the expense, at the time I would gas up the Caravan every 5-6 days and the Focus about 1/week, at about $85 CAD for the van and $50 CAD for the Focus, and so I was spending over $6k annually on fuel, which is a little more than the payments on a brand-new CMAX, but I still had two perfectly good cars so I let it go.

 

Then about 6 mo. later (around X-mas 2017)  my wife balled up the Focus. We were trying to figure out a strategy to replace it then I remember this great little PHEV that I had kicked the tyres on the previous summer, so off to the local ford dealer, where they had a white se and a black titanium left around.  We took the Titanium and the rest is history.



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Posted 03 February 2018 - 08:06 AM

I was driving a Ford Flex and I enjoyed the car.  But at the time gas was around 4 bucks a gallon and I was changing jobs going from 7 miles each way to 27 miles each way.  I  decided to look around for something with better mileage.  The Flex is also pretty wide so I was also looking for something a little smaller and came upon the CMAX.  A little research and then in June of 2014 I found a leftover 2013 for a great price.  I was hoping to be able to plug in my car at work but that has not happened :(

 

Now 55K miles later gas prices are lower but I still can't see myself going back to a low MPG car.  

 

I think the end of this year I will be looking at a 2019 something probably a Honda Clarity but who knows.  The 2018 Clarity is nice but it seems they left off a couple of items so they could add them for the 2019 model.  Currently the Federal tax credit is 7500 and Colorado has an incredible (to me) 5000 tax credit.  Being able to take that much off me is pretty amazing to me, for a car that has few compromises being a PHEV other than the lack of a hatch.



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Posted 03 February 2018 - 09:06 AM

Got a Focus Electric last July to replace the decrepid Subaru Forester, instantly fell in love with EVs.

Decided my '16 Mazda3 was no longer serving the purpose (2 hatchbacks not ideal) and really wanted a Bolt, but it's too expensive and I am not quite ready to ditch gasoline 100% yet.

If Ford made an Escape Energi for the same price I would have bought it but the C-Max Energi was closest for now. I did look forward to the "single pane of glass" of MyFordMobile having two Ford electrics.

Plus my commute is ideal for the C-Max range, as it should take care of 1/2 to 2/3rds of my drive. But then my wife butted in and decided the C-Max is her car, she drives a lot more than me so this isn't optimal but at least it saves her some gas over the Mazda (though her driving the Focus Electric is better and there's free fast charging at her destination, although we have free L2 at my workplace too but it's only 16A).

Regardless, the C-Max is a better family car for us than the Mazda3 or Focus Electric. I am looking forward to a 1-man road trip in it soon as well. L2 charging should make sleeping in a car nicer.

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 08:48 PM

I haven't owned an American made vehicle since college (S-10 Blazer that was about to need a 3rd transmission) when I decided to buy a '92 Mazda Protege in '95 after reading Consumer Reports about best used budget vehicles.  That lasted until my next Protege in 2001, bought new.  My height and age were leading me away from the little sedans, but still cheap so a low milage Scion XB (2006) was my vehicle until it became a high mileage XB.   After much research and deliberation, this January I bought a 2016 Energi (6k miles) with everthing on it for $4k more that the 2000 Protege cost.  I love how it gives me the headroom of the Scion and is super comfortable to get in and out of for me at 6'5".  Looked at an BMW I3, but didn't like the limited gas range, tiny front tires, and rear wheel drive.  After a month with the Energi, I'm sold on plugins.  Just wish it had longer range as my daily drive it at its limits.



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Posted 05 February 2018 - 07:50 AM

I'm a software engineer and a railfan, and they have both greatly influenced my thinking.  You see, diesel locomotives are really hybrids; the diesel spins an alternator which powers the traction motor on each axle.  I'm very attracted to the pure engineering efficiency and low "moving part" count of electric drive.

 

Unfortunately, my wife has serious range anxiety, which so far rules out pure electrics; so PHEVs were the target.  I had eagerly followed the development of the Volt, but a test drive showed that my 6'2" son would break his neck in the back seat.  I've driven "tall" cars for a long time (Volvo, Saab, Forester) so the CMax Energi was pretty much the only suitable option.

 

Besides being the default choice, I've been *very* happy with it.  My commute is within the pure electric range, and there's a free charger near work (thanks, National Grid!).  I generally burn some gas on the weekends, when there are several little trips all in a row, and I plan those longer trips to determine the best segment on which to burn gas, attempting to arrive at a charger on the last few electrons in the battery.  I don't see anywhere near enough need for an L2 charger at home; I already had 110V 20A outlets in the garage.


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Posted 05 February 2018 - 09:15 AM

I'm a software engineer and a railfan, and they have both greatly influenced my thinking.  You see, diesel locomotives are really hybrids; the diesel spins an alternator which powers the traction motor on each axle.  I'm very attracted to the pure engineering efficiency and low "moving part" count of electric drive.

 

Unfortunately, my wife has serious range anxiety, which so far rules out pure electrics; so PHEVs were the target.  I had eagerly followed the development of the Volt, but a test drive showed that my 6'2" son would break his neck in the back seat.  I've driven "tall" cars for a long time (Volvo, Saab, Forester) so the CMax Energi was pretty much the only suitable option.

 

Besides being the default choice, I've been *very* happy with it.  My commute is within the pure electric range, and there's a free charger near work (thanks, National Grid!).  I generally burn some gas on the weekends, when there are several little trips all in a row, and I plan those longer trips to determine the best segment on which to burn gas, attempting to arrive at a charger on the last few electrons in the battery.  I don't see anywhere near enough need for an L2 charger at home; I already had 110V 20A outlets in the garage.

It still blows my mind that PHEV or at least HEV trucks, especially work trucks isn't commonplace yet!



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Posted 06 February 2018 - 09:24 AM

My car is not new but since I have never financed a car or bought a car this new, this was like buying a new car to me. First ever American car for me as well. Stayed away from them due to reliability concerns and also, I felt their styling and what they offered sucked (to my eye of course).

 

I used to be in the know in what Ford produced for the European market and was always in shock at how much cooler their cars are overseas compared to the crap they were putting out here in the late 90s and early 2000s. The Focus caught my eye initially when first released...I had worked for a rental car company and I liked them. That and the Countour were pretty nice drives...Countour had some balls...My brother owns a car service shop and says the Focus come in with 200k plus miles all the time...

 

To be honest though, I think American car companies finally got their act together and have started to produce some great cars in the past 5-10 years compared to those made say 15-25 years ago.

 

After owning a couple VWs and my last car, a BMW, I think this Ford will not even compare in un-reliability...at least I hope not...that and it's like having a new car as this thing has 24k miles...Cars I buy in the past are well over 100k miles...I found out I could only get away with buying 100k plus mile cars if I bought a Japanese car...not so much with VWs and BMWs...

 

My wife's 2012 CT200H hybrid now has 223k miles

 

Love this car throughout...how it drives/looks/feels. Could not tell before but my C-Max feels so much nicer compared to her Lexus that is only 2 years older...


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