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Local Dealer Wants to Buy My 2013 C-Max Energi

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#1 OFFLINE   blandman

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Posted 16 September 2018 - 10:54 AM

A few weeks ago I received a "cold call" letter from the local Ford dealer in Medford, Oregon. They offered to purchase my 2013 C-Max Energi for 120% over KBB. I don't use that dealership (there is a closer one in Ashland), so its a little creepy how he got my personal information. However, it seems Ford made a tactical mistake discontinuing the C-Max for the West Coast market.

 

I turned the offer down as we plan to keep the car until someone comes up with a credible PHEV SUV.  I'm guessing Toyota will release the PHEV RAV4 before Ford releases a PHEV Escape or similar.  

 

Anyone else get a similar offer from a dealer?









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#2 OFFLINE   fredf

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Posted 16 September 2018 - 12:42 PM

It  is kind of a standard letter the big difference is  what they will sell the new car for.

My 2013 shows a value of 7754. 120% comes to 9304.

 

 

There is enough play in a new car price to make up any additional money they are offering over the cars actual value.

hey could go full retail on the CMAX there is a 2013 for $12,997 with 58K miles but does not have all the options of mine.

 

If they truly will buy it for 120% over KBB, without needing to buy another car it could be a good deal but willing to bet there  is some fine print.

 

I am hoping to sell mine to a private party could be a good deal for an UBER/Lyft driver or a food delivery guy if the boss lets him plug in the car at the store.



#3 OFFLINE   blandman

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Posted 16 September 2018 - 02:01 PM

I think you  are right. It is probably a lure to get me into the dealership. Not a particular demand for the car. Similarly, we sold our house in California a few months back. We received a letter from a realtor from another county claiming he was representing a cash buyer interested in the house. We ignored it after consulting with Dr. Google. 



#4 OFFLINE   MaxLB

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Posted 16 September 2018 - 07:02 PM

Jeez, I've been getting letters like that for the last 20 years.  Just a ruse to get you into the dealership to sell you another car.



#5 OFFLINE   jzchen

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 01:57 AM

The fine print on ours was the mileage on the vehicle. If you had over a certain mileage there was a per mi deduction that substantially decreased the value...

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 09:13 AM

I just traded in my 2013 NRG (50K miles) for a new 2018 Kia Niro PHEV, dealer gave me $7900 for Cmax.  KBB trade in was around $8000.



#7 OFFLINE   fredf

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 07:53 PM

But what discount did you get on the Niro?



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Posted 18 September 2018 - 06:04 AM

The Niro is air cooled?  I thought you said you wouldn't get an air cooled HVB again?

 

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Posted 18 September 2018 - 08:46 AM

But what discount did you get on the Niro?

 

Buying through Costco Auto, got it for $33,800, MSRP is 36500 for the trim/color I bought.  



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Posted 18 September 2018 - 05:00 PM

So you made out pretty good 100 less than KBB ( which is more a WAG) and got 3K off the car.



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Posted 19 September 2018 - 02:44 PM

So you made out pretty good 100 less than KBB ( which is more a WAG) and got 3K off the car.

I'm happy.  The sale price was fixed by Costco Auto Purchase, no haggle at $700 under dealer invoice, so I knew the Niro price even before walking into the dealership.  



#12 OFFLINE   Billyk24

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Posted 19 September 2018 - 05:38 PM

8.9 kWh battery is a little larger than the C-Max but does the Nitro have the regenerative capacity (software) the C-Max has that allows 30 miles of EV driving?



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Posted 21 September 2018 - 08:07 AM

Yeah, that's a standard dealer claim.

 

For the credible PHEV SUV, do consider the Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid. It's a minivan, but it has tremendous space inside, gets better AER than the C-Max, and liquid-cools the battery. We only have 500 miles on ours so far but it's top-notch.



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Posted 23 September 2018 - 06:20 AM

Gas mileage is only 33 mpg vs 40 mpg for CMAX NRG and how fast can you go in EV only? It might be OK around town, but for HWY driving you are taking a big hit in mpg's.

 

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Posted 23 September 2018 - 02:19 PM

Gas mileage is only 33 mpg vs 40 mpg for CMAX NRG and how fast can you go in EV only? It might be OK around town, but for HWY driving you are taking a big hit in mpg's.

 

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Niro MPG as hybrid is around 48MPG, I do around 28 - 32 miles EV at 70 MPH.  The ICE does come on in passing or hard acceleration., but shuts down immediately after demand - not like NRG that runs at least 2 minutes to thoroughly heat the engine.  Perhaps that's why the warranty recommended oil change is at 7500 miles.


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Posted 23 September 2018 - 02:22 PM

Rich,

 

Any idea what the battery temperature is at after you drive 70mph on the highway with it?  Air cooled you said so its not going to stay as cool probably like the Cmax, is it not a good idea to beat it that hard I'm afraid you might end up with some capacity loss sooner than later if you keep that up?

 

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Posted 24 September 2018 - 07:41 AM

Niro MPG as hybrid is around 48MPG, I do around 28 - 32 miles EV at 70 MPH.  The ICE does come on in passing or hard acceleration., but shuts down immediately after demand - not like NRG that runs at least 2 minutes to thoroughly heat the engine.  Perhaps that's why the warranty recommended oil change is at 7500 miles.

I was referring to the Pacifica MPG's.

 

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Posted 01 October 2018 - 04:31 AM

I was referring to the Pacifica MPG's.

 

Paul

 

The Pacifica goes highway speeds on battery if it's charged. It happily used ACC, on battery power, at 65 MPH on Saturday when we took 6 people comfortably on a short excursion. True, the gas MPGs are lower than the Niro (rated, we only have 600 miles on ours so far and there haven't been any long highway trips in those yet so I have no idea what we'll get). But I don't understand why somebody wants an SUV if it's not to seat more people, and no other PHEV does that besides the Volvo XC90 which gets much worse mileage than the Pacifica.



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Posted 01 October 2018 - 08:13 AM

I'm trying to find out when the Escape Plugin is suppose to be available with greater range and better MPG's.  It's Oct. already and you would think the info on the 2019's would be out there. :headscratch:

 

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