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#1 OFFLINE   Billyk24

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 02:12 AM

I got my hands on a 2017 Titanium  version with 332 miles on it!    Still have a 2005 Escape Hybrid that is running flawlessly but may need some body work in regards to rust.   Need to reset my Scanguages to read the High Voltage Battery Pack temperature which should run under 102F?


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#2 OFFLINE   fotomoto

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 07:19 AM

:welcome:

 

 

Another new owner!  Congrats.   

 

The upper battery temp shut off is around 113f then it will only operate in hybrid mode till the temp drops below that threshold.  Up north, I suspect you'd only see that on the warmest of days IF you charge an already warm pack via level II (240v) in the afternoon.    I've never experienced this but I have never had the need to recharge in the middle of the day in the sun either.  



#3 OFFLINE   rbort

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 08:49 AM

I would try to keep the battery under 100F for sure, preferably under 90 if you can though that's impossible on hot days.

 

-=>Raja.


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#4 OFFLINE   Billyk24

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Posted 18 June 2018 - 04:44 PM

Thanks for the replies.   I spent time reading may threads in this forum and learned quickly you want to "press" the EV button after starting to put the vehicle into "EV later" for a number of reasons.  I have been doing that.   Sticking with a level 1 charger (for now) as overnight charging is all I need right now and driving in "EV later" makes the battery less likely to drain too far down when my local commute is six miles and most of my activities are within 17 miles of my home.   Next week will have the oil changed to Mobil 1 0W-20 as used by my Escape Hybrid.



#5 OFFLINE   rbort

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Posted 18 June 2018 - 06:15 PM

Why do you need to change the oil if the car has 332 miles on it?  I have 18k miles on my car and have not change the factory oil yet.  I change it at 20k miles just like I did with my 2013 Cmax.  Once every 20k is all you need with these cars.  In 20k the engine will run less than 10k miles.  Synthetic oil lasts longer than that.

 

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#6 OFFLINE   RubyMax

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Posted 19 June 2018 - 05:45 AM

Thanks for the replies.   I spent time reading may threads in this forum and learned quickly you want to "press" the EV button after starting to put the vehicle into "EV later" for a number of reasons.  I have been doing that.   Sticking with a level 1 charger (for now) as overnight charging is all I need right now and driving in "EV later" makes the battery less likely to drain too far down when my local commute is six miles and most of my activities are within 17 miles of my home.   Next week will have the oil changed to Mobil 1 0W-20 as used by my Escape Hybrid.

If your daily commute is 17 miles, why are you forcing the car to EV Later, and firing up the ICE?  Use the battery for short trips and the ICE for longer trips.



#7 OFFLINE   Billyk24

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Posted 19 June 2018 - 01:16 PM

If your daily commute is 17 miles, why are you forcing the car to EV Later, and firing up the ICE?  Use the battery for short trips and the ICE for longer trips.

 

battery temperature.  I just got the car and need to learn about this and other stuff.  It is (from what I can tell?) safer to go "EV Later" in managing the temperature.



#8 OFFLINE   rbort

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Posted 19 June 2018 - 05:20 PM

Yes and no, it all depends.  There is/should be alot of management and considerations going on for the current situation and conditions. 

 

For example if may be better to use some battery to go to work instead of going to EV later from the beginning and arriving at work with 95% charge in the battery, then letting the car sir and bake in the sun with an almost full battery.  Better to have a lower charge level and best not to bake in the sun anyways.

 

Or maybe you don't charge the car full because you don't need more than 7 miles to work 1 way.

 

A basic thought is to use Auto for city streets or slow speeds on secondary roads, if you get on the highway start the engine.  But sometimes you need to use the engine also on city streets, depending on the situation for example if the engine is hot already and you need to go uphill for a while...

 

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#9 OFFLINE   ShoulderThingThatGoesUP

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 02:26 AM

If you always use EV Later, you're not really using the car as a plug-in.



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Posted 20 June 2018 - 04:25 PM

If you always use EV Later, you're not really using the car as a plug-in.

 

No, I do not use EV Later all the time.   I have used all three settings in my 7 days of ownership and turn to EV Later if I am unsure of HVB temperature.  I have consistently gotten upper 90% brake coach scores with the worst I can remember at 94% and habits from driving my 2005 Escape Hybrid carry over very well. 


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#11 OFFLINE   Billyk24

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Posted 20 June 2018 - 04:27 PM

What is the coding for the Scanguage HVB temperature and fan speed?    I never used them in my Escape Hybrid and am not sure what they are.



#12 OFFLINE   Tom_NC_1

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 04:57 AM

What is the coding for the Scanguage HVB temperature and fan speed?    I never used them in my Escape Hybrid and am not sure what they are.

 

Here are the programming instructions for the Scanguage that you asked for.

 

Hybrid Battery Temperature (Degrees Fahrenheit)

TXD: 07E4224800

RXF: 046205480600

RXD: 3008

MTH: 00090005FFC6

NAM: HBT

 

 

 

There are two setups available for fan speed and I have not see much if any difference between the two.

Fan Speed Demanded (RPM) for the HVB cooling fan

TXD: 07E4220701

RXF: 046205070601

RXD: 3008

MTH: 001900010000

NAM: FSD

 

 

Fan Speed Indicated (RPM) for the HVB cooling fan

TXD: 07E4220702

RXF: 046205070602

RXD: 3008

MTH: 001900010000

NAM: FSI

Both the FSI and FSD xgauges show about the same readings.

Tested while charging and got a response of 1775.

Engine on at idle 1000 RPM and will be 1500 RPM id the HVB is >100 degrees.

Fan speed increases with increase in MPH. Maximum observed fan speed is 2725 @ 65 MPH.



#13 OFFLINE   Billyk24

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Posted 21 June 2018 - 01:55 PM

I ran three or two scanguages in my Escape Hybrid without issue.   I pulled two of them last night and installed on my CMax and ...got no readings other thanthe MPG figures.   Does the CMax have a different coding "numbers" than the Escape Hybrid?     I looked at the Scanguage site and found no CMax information.    I guess I need to take a photo and post.



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Posted 22 June 2018 - 02:13 AM

Need to upgrade my firmware from 3.14 and 3.17 to 4.50.  Purchased the upgrade fees and will be put into the mail on Friday.  Thanks.










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