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I think I got screwed...please give me your opinions
Posted 04 March 2018 - 09:35 PM
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Posted 05 March 2018 - 03:25 AM
Yeah he lied to you about that. He takes the federal tax credit... and that gets baked into the lease payments.
350x36+10800 is $23,400 altogether, add $4001 to that and it's like you paid $27,401 for the car.
Posted 05 March 2018 - 06:03 AM
So the question and answer as always is get it in writing. If you had included Lessee keeps federal tax credit you could have the contract voided. Now you just have a verbal agreement/statement and YOU signed paperwork that says any verbal agreements are not valid and binding.
Posted 05 March 2018 - 07:05 AM
Beg for mercy from the dealership / lessor (Ford Credit?). If you want to keep the car, ask dealer for free routine maintenance / free loaner, free extended warranty if you purchase car at EOL and so forth. If you don't want the car, look at the penalties for early lease termination in the contract and try to negotiate them lower.
Otherwise, just enjoy the car. You are likey not out $4k as the $22k is likely several thousand too low for a purchase price. Maybe you could have done better with a straight purchase of a new Energi or a low mileage used one, but it's done. $26832 is the current x-plan price for a 2017 Energi Titanium. Never trust what a salesman tells you. A simple google search would have provided the correct answer for lease vs purchase with respect to the FTC.
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Posted 05 March 2018 - 09:36 AM
Posted 05 March 2018 - 10:29 AM
Probably a low 12v battery, if you charge it back up should be OK. Might have been from sitting in the dealer lot for a while.
Anyway, about the purchase, you "already" got the 4k rebate if you did the lease, that's why the lease is cheaper. But lease for me never made any sense, as many people lease the car and then when the lease is up they find out they have to pay "too much" to keep the car so they give it up. Also, while they had the car they had to forgo going on some trips as it would put them over the mileage allowance. What's the point in getting a car and not being able to use it? Its not cheaper with a lease really, its just a glorified rental contract for 3 years instead of 3 days on a long weekend.
If you have no intention of keeping the car, might be a good way to "try one" for 3 years and change to something else later.
Posted 05 March 2018 - 10:43 AM
Edited by Tradesuperstocks, 05 March 2018 - 10:43 AM.
Posted 05 March 2018 - 10:58 AM
I'd call Ford roadside assistance and have them tow the thing back to the dealer .... preferably the dealer where you leased it. Get a service record started on this thing. Lemon laws can take effect but only if the dealer is unable to resolve a problem after X (not sure what 'X' is? 3?) tries. Whatever you do, don't fix this one yourself, put it on them!
Posted 05 March 2018 - 11:09 AM
Just recharge the 12v battery and see what happens. Or you can to through the rigmarole of going through the dealer. Depends, are you trying to take it back? Not sure if you can or not, might be a done deal. If done deal then just put a 12v charger on the battery and top if off, see if the problem goes away. If not then you can take it to the dealer.
Posted 05 March 2018 - 11:42 AM
Posted 05 March 2018 - 03:56 PM
You probably cannot cancel read your paperwork or request some time with a lawyer.
Lemon laws do not always apply to a lease as you do not own the car you will need to check your states consumer laws.
Posted 05 March 2018 - 03:59 PM
Do you have a 12v battery charger? You need to charge that in order for the car to wake up. But I get the feeling you don't know how to do that so just tow it back to the dealer and deal with them.
Posted 05 March 2018 - 04:29 PM
Recharging the 12V batt isn't the same as plugging it in, see the EV charge port requires a little bit of 12V power to function at all, but if the 12V lead acid battery is stone dead then it needs a good ole fashion jumpstart under the hood.
It can't even recharge for Fark sake.... Nothing lít on.... It's brand new BTW.... I've never see a brand new card dead in a first day...dealer will tow it back... But my question is can I cancel this lease?
But I advocate having Ford tow it, seeing that it's fubar, and having them fix it instead. Just to get it on record. Might get a new 12V lead acid battery out of the deal.
Posted 05 March 2018 - 05:47 PM
Posted 05 March 2018 - 06:21 PM
No of course not as long as you don't mind having your credit score be ruined and going to court for non payment of the lease.
Posted 05 March 2018 - 06:23 PM
Jumpstart and it works per the technician at the Ford dealer. They told me to pick up tomorrow am. I told them. Keep the car there and I don't even intend to show up tomorrow....am I in trouble if I don't want that car?
You need to read your lease. My guess is that if you don't want the car, you need to call the lessor and arrange for the car to be picked up or delivered by you to them. Upon surrendering, the lessor will determine the value of the car by selling it (usually by wholesaling it). You will be responsible for paying any losses the lessor incurrs between their cost and the price they sell it for. The dealer is not the lessor nor the owner of the car.
I wouldn't want a car that I leased setting on a dealer lot for any length of time. You are responsible for any damages to the car (hope you have insurance on it).
Posted 05 March 2018 - 06:36 PM
Edited by Tradesuperstocks, 05 March 2018 - 06:36 PM.
Posted 05 March 2018 - 06:56 PM
Posted 05 March 2018 - 07:31 PM
Jumpstart and it works per the technician at the Ford dealer. They told me to pick up tomorrow am.
Listen, you bought the car and the battery was dead. It needs a recharge as the car was not in use for some months. A good recharge on the battery should do it, as the first time they probably just jumped the car and you went home.
Anyway, getting cold feet on the purchase doesn't have anything to do with this, and its a long way from the lemon law. My guess is that you're stuck with the car or if you don't want it you're losing some more money to give it back.
That's it. It is what it is.
And besides the dead battery, the car itself may be very good to you. I love mine, on my 2nd one now, and neither had a 12v battery issue so far.
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Posted 06 March 2018 - 06:37 AM
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