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It has a 47 mile EV range the battery is in the floor pan so no real loss of space. Large battery qualifies for the full 7500.00 federal tax credit. Fully loaded it is 37K which seems to make it a pretty good value, the only minus is a smallish gas tank of 7 gallons.
I think this is a great design ticking off a lot of boxes on the PHEV checklist. I think Volt sales in California might take a big hit without significant discounting once the Clarity catches on (its looks are probably it's biggest con). Since Honda doesn't have big sales in trucks/large SUV's like most others, they probably don't have the big CAFE/CARB incentives to make.
the only minus is a smallish gas tank of 7 gallons.
Having owned a Volt with an identical size tank, this isn't a big deal. With the Clarity's decent highway fuel economy plus EV range, you're dealing with a travel range of around 5 hours on the highway; that's more than my bladder or my passenger can last before needing a stop. Minor benefit is faster fills. My Energi gas tank may have double the size but I went longer between fills in my Volt in daily driving. Bottom line: I'd rather have the trunk space.
But....... just like the difference between the CMax and Energi, long distance commuters are probably better off with the hybrid and a larger tank.
Current Vehicle:Cmax Energi Titanium with Moonroof
Posted 21 January 2018 - 09:18 PM
I love the large tank of the Cmax. It allows me to SKIP over expensive states and get gas only in cheap places. I can go from Boston to Virginia on the same tank, (actually further to North Carolina), or I can go from Boston to Ohio on the same tank. Having the bigger tank allows for more options. A small tank only hinders things as best, the space required for the gas is not significant in my opinion. You can always stop to pee without having to get gas at the same time.
However, with that being said, the Honda looks interesting. I should go see one in person.
Current Vehicle:2015 CMax Energi, 302A / 2017 Chevrolet Bolt Premier
Posted 22 January 2018 - 05:09 AM
It looks like a great option for the market. It has the EV range for many more people to have an all-electric commute, and the hybrid efficiency for long trips. I hope it sells really well.
I would find the trunk too limiting, personally. It only has 15.5cu.ft. of cargo room to the Energi's 19cu.ft. (plus the hatchback access). As it is, I often fill up the Energi's trunk PLUS a roof box. I'm in the group that would be much more likely to consider a Pacifica than a Clarity when it comes to purchase. Of course it's a moot point since I intend to keep the CMax until either it becomes expensive to maintain (hopefully another 8-10 years) or my family out grows it (e.g. if I had 4+ children).
-We're still mad at Honda over how we had to park our Fit for months during the airbag recall, and then how we had to sell it because the passenger side went under recall and they weren't offering rentals for that - can't not use the passenger seat with a family of 5
-They aren't factoring the federal credit into the lease, and we don't pay enough federal taxes to get the credit
-The range of the C-Max is pretty good for our location; we've averaged 91 MPGe since August according to the car. So a worse overall range while still paying for gas engine maintenance isn't a good trade-off to us.
My wife is mostly the one mad at Honda, probably because the first rental car we got smelled a little smoky and she was in the first trimester of pregnancy with twins, so bad smells were hell to her. Then we got the Chrysler that broke down, and the Buick that was a giant damn boat.
I looked at the Clarity before I bought my Energi. The Clarity is great-comfortable and well laid out, but the small gas tank translates to a 350 mile range and the lack of incentives makes it a very expensive option. I'm happy with my Energi.
Current Vehicle:Cmax Energi Titanium with Moonroof
Posted 19 February 2018 - 11:28 PM
Why are they cutting the freakin' gas tank size?? Don't they understand that range is king?
I realize the comment comes in "I need to stop to pee", but you can stop for that and not stop for gas if you didn't need it, and hence be able to skip over alot of states with more expensive gas to reach your better options, how about something like this:
So from home to Patterson, NJ, get 3.88 gallons of gas ($7.36/1.899) to get back to full, and then from patterson NJ nonstop to Lima OH skipping over all of Pennsylvania which is alot more expensive than Ohio. Why would you want a small gas tank, I don't see the benefit of a small tank, a large one you don't have to make as many stops for gas over the life of the car.
The Clarity came back up again here in conversation the other day. Ever since getting my C-Max my cousin has been considering jumping into the EV/PHEV space. He's got a Subaru Crosstrek currently which he likes but skipped right out on the hybrid due to the piss poor mileage improvements. He's not too terribly fond of the C-Max for a couple of reasons and other than the Volt, nothing seems to really grab his attention. Except the Clarity came up. And it caused me to start doing some additional looking into it which looks extremely promising so far. One of the biggest new pluses I've seen is it potentially has a series hybrid mode like the Volt and also an HV charge mode. His work is also moving him to another building in a year or so which just recently added Chargepoint EVSE's to their employee only garages. So looks very promising for him.
Also out of pure luck I ended up taking a look again at the Toyota Highlander hybrid. My mom's been itching to get into a bigger SUV again. She had a Durango a while back and traded down to a Kia Sportage and wants to go back up to a 3 row SUV. Looks like Toyota possibly bumped the Highlander in the 2018 model year to a full size SUV and the hybrid model has seriously promising specs. All electric AWD. Atkinson cycle V6. Still rated at 30mpg city. That is pretty fantastic when you consider what some of the other current hybrid/PHEV SUV's get and the AWD Escape hybrids even got less mileage with the 2.5l i4's. I think they ran in the 28-29mpg city range for AWD. Sadly if that ever became an option it would have to be used down the road after they come off lease with the tax credits taken out of the resale cost.
Current Vehicle:C-Max Energi, 302A, Pano; Focus Electric
Posted 10 March 2018 - 01:26 PM
I saw the Clarity at the Cleveland Auto Show, and besides the 47 mile AER and MSRP similar to a C-Max Energi, I really do not care for the car.
The horizontal shelf where the gear selector lies, is just horrendous. The slightly skirted rear tires, why? The rear decklid is so high that they had to put an extra glass window in the rear hatch and one behind the seat leading to the cargo area, just to see out the back of the car.