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[Axtrader]

I have owned only Ford cars for the last 32 years, learning to drive in a 1966 Mustang 6 cylinder coupe. I have owned 4 Mustangs, 2 Sport Tracs, Expedition, Ranger, 2 Fusion Energi's and a C-Max Energi. Never purchased any other brand. I was proud to buy the American Ford brand my entire life and I will forever own and cherish my 1966 Mustang GT convertible. But last week I purchased a Tesla Model X and will not buy Ford again going forward. This coming summer, I will trade the 2013 C-Max Energi for the new Model 3.
I am disappointed in my C-Max Energi as it now barely holds 4kw charge (10 miles range). When other car companies warranty 70% battery capacity, Ford wont tell us their warranty threshold.
I am also disappointed that Ford will build all of their Electric vehicles in China in a few years. I never want to buy a Ford vehicle built in China.
My first Mustang was built by Ford in San Jose CA and my future cars will be built a few miles north in Fremont, CA. There is no comparison... The future is electric and autonomy... and the US will continue to lead that revolution.

Edited by Axtrader, 29 December 2017 - 07:33 PM.

[ShoulderThingThatGoesUP]

I get it. Thinking about a Model S with rear-facing seats, hoping the cost of used ones falls a lot in 2018 as more Model 3 deliveries get going.

[marlowefamily]

I agree with you that many consumers are not going to pay big $ for high end cars manufactured outside the USA (with, perhaps German/Italian cars being the exception).

 

That said, I don't see Tesla as a real competitor at the moment.  Their cars are too expensive and I hate the minimalist interface that is over reliant on big tablet type screens to do anything.  The C-Max got it right with 3 separate main displays, plus a few dedicated gauges and lots of buttons.

[bschwerdt]

Congrats on the Teslas.  I'm sure they will be life-changing.

[ptjones]

I just don't see it until you can go into a Gas Station switch out HVB in ten minutes like a fill up. Just not piratical for over 200 miles, It takes way to long to charge and I average about 700 miles on a tank, long time before Teslas  have that range. IMO

 

Paul

[bschwerdt]

For each his own, Paul. When I travel, it's with kids.  We have to stop every 200 miles (3 hours) for a half-hour bio break anyway.  Might as well charge the car back up.

 

If that doesn't work for you, then a PHEV like the Energi is a great alternative.

 

In the meantime, the BEVs will get longer range and faster charging.  As a result, they will appeal to more and more buyers.

[ptjones]

For each his own, Paul. When I travel, it's with kids.  We have to stop every 200 miles (3 hours) for a half-hour bio break anyway.  Might as well charge the car back up.

 

If that doesn't work for you, then a PHEV like the Energi is a great alternative.

 

In the meantime, the BEVs will get longer range and faster charging.  As a result, they will appeal to more and more buyers.

The other big issue is price which will also have to come down.  You can go 200 miles on half an hour charge.? Having an Hybrid I'm not use to looking for charging stations, In my travels across country I don't notice many so that could be a problem. I do know that there are lines at peak travel times.   It is 209 miles from El Paso to Pecos, TX, if you had an head wind it might be difficult to go that far, you think? Just something to think about before buying a cross country EV. 

 

Paul

Edited by ptjones, 09 January 2018 - 12:47 PM.

[bschwerdt]

No, my car cannot go 200 miles on a 30 minute charge.  GM advertises 90 miles in 30 minutes, although in theory it looks more like 100.  The current long-range Model 3 can, however, travel 200 miles on a half hour charge.  The technology exists, and I suspect several options will be available within 5 years.

 

Regarding finding charging stations "in the wild", you won't.  Not unless you look hard for them.  Today's EV traveler really needs to use a tool such as PlugShare to find charging.  That too is likely to change in the next 5 years, thanks in no small part to Electrify America (i.e. VW's penance for diesel-gate).

[epic]

im similar to poster.not a lot of ford in my future.the energi goes to thenew driving daughter.i have a bolt andthe wife a model x.ford has lost me .not buying any china junk if possible & certainly not a car.