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2013 Cmax SEL Energi vs 2017 Cmax Titanium Energi

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#41 OFFLINE   sporkinum


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Posted 25 August 2017 - 07:10 AM

I would much rather sacrifice 20-25 miles of EV range volt vs cmax and double the gas range.  Plus the room, etc is perfect.


The Cmax you don't have to use the battery excessively in the summer, just use more engine and save the battery for the winter time.  Anyway there are a limited amount of miles and charges you can get out of a battery, why use it all up within the first 4 years using the battery hard if you can use it not as hard in the summer and stretch its good life to 8 years?  You know what I mean?  In other words, don't buy this car to be used as 100% electric all the time, it was never designed for that.


Plus, I really like the technology and creature comforts inside.




We put pretty low miles on the car, 6000 miles in 9 months. The battery and whole car should last us a long time. I have a new electric vehicle on the way from China, so fewer miles on the car soon. https://meepoboard.com/

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#42 OFFLINE   rbort


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Posted 25 August 2017 - 06:54 PM

Are you going to commute with the Meepo?  Maybe like Michael J Fox is Back to the Future?



#43 OFFLINE   sporkinum


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Posted 25 August 2017 - 07:15 PM

Are you going to commute with the Meepo?  Maybe like Michael J Fox is Back to the Future?



Yep. Already commute on a longboard. This is so I can be lazy sometimes. It's also twice as fast as I can push.

#44 OFFLINE   viajero


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Posted 01 October 2017 - 05:24 PM

I had always intended to trade in my C-Max before it got more than 4 or 5
years old, so over the last year or so I researched and test drove various EVs
- Bolt, Volt, Audi A3 E-tron, Prius Prime, Optima PHEV, BMW I3, even Pacifica
  Hybrid.  I wanted more electric range, but in the end, the C-Max was just
too awesome to give up, so I traded mine in for a new 2017 model.  $2900 cash
from Ford on top of heavy dealer discounting helped, too!

After driving the 2017 for a few days, here are my additions/further thoughts
on what rbort wrote in the original post.

The air dam under the front has been replaced with two little ones in front of
each wheel.  The old one harmlessly but noisily scraped every time I drove my
steep driveway, or parked with the wheels bumped to those little concrete
mini-curbs.  The new one does not.

The new driver assist package is mostly good.  It has some sort of rear-side
sonar so when I'm backing out of a parking spot it will announce "Car
approaching from the right!"  That I found quite helpful.  The blind spot
warning is a little orange light in the side mirror which lights up when a car
is in your blind spot.  But, they got rid of the old built-in convex mirror.
I'd rather have the mirror.  Don't see why they couldn't keep both.

The dashboard panel doesn't quite line up with polarized sunglasses.  The old
car was perfect; they new one has a slight yellowish tint unless I tilt my
head sideways somewhat.  Still easily legible, though.

The ICE seems quieter, or at least the new car does a better job of noise
cancellation.  I never hear the muffled lugging sound at low RPM that I often
heard with the old car.  At high RPM it doesn't seem to buzz as loudly,

The air conditioning is MUCH quieter, and more efficient as well.  Even
after sitting around in a 90 degree parking lot, it only starts up at about
1.5 bars on the climate display and quickly drops to 0.5 bars.

The battery cooling might be better.  I say might be because I didn't have the
Scangauge to monitor battery temperature when I very first got the old car.  When I
did install the Scangauge about 6 months in I saw the battery temperature
easily push the 113 F limit after just two full charge/drive cycles in a day.
Yesterday I ran the new car through three full charge/drive cycles, two of
them largely at highway speeds, and the battery temperature only went from the
low 80s to 100 F.

The new car battery also cools off a few degrees while charging, which the old
one never did.  Again, the battery self-heating got really bad after several years
on the old one, so I'll have to see how the new one does over the first few

The old car had an option to not turn on the dome lights when the doors open.
I really liked this, but it doesn't look like it can be done with the 2017
model.  On a related note, the 2017 owners manual still shows the 2016
lighting buttons, so no help there.

The 2013 had door unlock sensors on the insides of the rear door handles.  The
2017 does not.  I didn't realize until it was gone that I use this feature
every day, sometimes multiple times.  I often store stuff in/under the rear
seats, or clip/unclip a towel over the drivers seat when I get dirty or
sweaty from running, climbing, etc.  This has been frustrating and will take a
while to unlearn.

rbort already mentioned the different climate control buttons.  In my opinion
it's a huge improvement.  Most buttons are a little bit bigger, especially
the EV mode button, which makes them easier to push with less distraction to
find them.

The blacked-out trim on the side vents helps with the chrome reflection in the side
window that so many people complained about on the original C-Max.

The infotainment system doesn't completely suck anymore!  That's a whole
'nother post...

Here are some pictures of the little doo-dad on the side of the rear glass.  Not
sure if it's just decorative or aerodynamic somehow.  I don't often drive in
snow, but when I do, frost collects on the rear window worse than any other
car I've driven.  Here's hoping it helps with that.



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