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#1 OFFLINE   Chuluwest

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Posted 24 November 2013 - 05:30 PM

I need some advice on how to manage flats. This is my second flat. The first was a blowout and could not be repaired. Towed to the Ford dealer and replaced. $270 dollars. No tire warranty for "road hazard".

 

This time it was a regular slow leak flat. Backed the car out of the garage - TPMS monitor on. Left rear tire flat. Got out the "Temporary Mobility Kit" used the sealant, then inflated to 30 lbs. So far so good. Lots of warnings not to exceed 50 mph or 120 miles so I took it to a tire shop to repair the flat. No, because a sealant had been used the tire could not be repaired. They didn't have any in stock so I went to Costco where I knew it would be cheapest and, unlike FORD, they would honor their warranty.

 

Three hours later, $220 for the tire. $50 to replace the tire pressure sensor (which was gummed up with the Sealant) and $35 for a replacement sealant cartridge (not from Costco BTW). Total over $300. and half my day. For a simple flat.

 

IS THIS NORMAL???? Why does Ford supply the car with a sealant that destroys the pressure monitor, voids the warranty and prevents the tire from being repaired?  Oh yeah in case I had had the string repair kit (which I bought, $7) I still couldn't have repaired the tire away from home the road because THERE IS NO JACK!

 

Isn't there a better way? Please don't tell me I don't know how to drive a hybrid, that has nothing to do with getting a flat (I drove my last car 10 years with 1 flat)

 

 

 









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#2 OFFLINE   fotomoto

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Posted 24 November 2013 - 06:06 PM

I don't know of any car company that covers road hazards as part of its tire warranty.  Tire warranties are usually covered by the respective tire companies for defects only.  Same thing with 12V batteries.

 

You were fed a line about repairing a tire that's had sealant in it.  Remove tire from wheel, clean it out, patch, and reinstall.  Most likely they were looking to sell you a tire.

 

Here's what I did and suggest:  

 

1) get an exterior plug kit and learn to use it.

2) get a jack, tools, and spare tire

3) keep spare in garage or in the hatch.

 

Here's a thread from the hybrid forum with lots of info:

 

http://fordcmaxhybri...r-c-max-hybrid/


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#3 OFFLINE   honemch

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Posted 24 November 2013 - 06:28 PM

Why would you replace a tire with a slow leak in it? Why would you use the sealant with a tire that just had a slow leak in it? Seems you should have just pumped the tire up, driven to American/discount tire and had the tire repaired for free. Total cost, $0.

#4 OFFLINE   ArizonaEnergi

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Posted 24 November 2013 - 08:08 PM

I've never tried it, but why can't you repair a tire with a string kit without jacking it up?  Can't you just roll the car until the leak is exposed on the tire and plug it?  With the tire pump it should be easy to find, normally.

 

Paying $300 sucks.  The cost of these tires are insane.


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#5 OFFLINE   fotomoto

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Posted 24 November 2013 - 08:29 PM

I've never tried it, but why can't you repair a tire with a string kit without jacking it up?  Can't you just roll the car until the leak is exposed on the tire and plug it?  With the tire pump it should be easy to find, normally.

 

It would be tough due to clearance but not impossible.  I've always removed mine because using the hand tools can take a fair amount of leverage to work into the tread.  That's why the manufacturers go with the pump in goop/compressor.  



#6 OFFLINE   edweird

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Posted 24 November 2013 - 08:54 PM

Thinking about this also makes me consider that there may be times when it makes sense to remove the wheel, and take just it to a tire shop.  The cost of the goop and replacement tire sensor could be avoided even if you had to buy a new tire.  Granted you'd need tools, a jack, and a second vehicle(or a lift from a friend) but if you discovered a flat at your home like the OP, it's something you might be able to do.



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Posted 24 November 2013 - 09:30 PM

You can use the onboard pump without the sealant to air up the tire and see if you could find the leak.

You said you were at home, so why not jack it up and repair it with the Rope Tire Plug Kit you have ?

 

Sorry to say, but you did everything wrong and cost yourself a lot of money you clearly could have avoided.



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Posted 25 November 2013 - 07:28 AM



It would be tough due to clearance but not impossible.  I've always removed mine because using the hand tools can take a fair amount of leverage to work into the tread.  That's why the manufacturers go with the pump in goop/compressor.  

 

I got a flat on the rear of our hybrid cmax but I luckily discovered it at home in the garage.  Ran over part of a box cutter razor blade.

 

 

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I removed the tire and used the rope style exterior plug on it.  

 

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It now has about 5k miles on the repair.  I've been meaning to take it in to get an interior plug but I'm a procrastinator.   :reading:


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Posted 25 November 2013 - 09:35 AM

I got a flat on the rear of our hybrid cmax but I luckily discovered it at home in the garage.  Ran over part of a box cutter razor blade.

 

It now has about 5k miles on the repair.  I've been meaning to take it in to get an interior plug but I'm a procrastinator.   :reading:

I run mine until the tire is worn out without any problems. I use rope plugs on my motorcycle tires too. Never had one leak after the repair and the repairs last the life of the tires tread.


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#10 OFFLINE   shaggy314

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Posted 25 November 2013 - 11:46 AM

At signing/delivery time, they offer you (or they did me) a road hazard/glass/door ding 'paint-less' repair. It's an insanely overpriced $500+ but I guess if 1 flat costs this much, it's only overpriced.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 04:34 PM

sounds like paying for Roadside assistance will be worth it for our car.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 06:02 PM

sounds like paying for Roadside assistance will be worth it for our car.

Check with your insurance co. before buying anything from the dealer.

I would buy and carry a spare before wasting it at the dealer  :spend:


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Posted 10 December 2013 - 07:22 AM

For $20 a year on my auto insurance policy, I get Trip Interuption Coverage, Unlimited Towing and Labor, Accidental Airbag Deployment coverage, Key/Transmitter coverage (lost or stolen), extended Peronal Effects coverage, Unlimited Rental Car Coverage, Pet Injury Coverage and Road Hazard Coverage, all with no deductible. 

 

I also have added a glass breakage deductible waiver for $5 per year, Replacment Cost coverage in case of a total loss for $20 per year and for another $20 per year, aHybrid Vehicle Replacement Coverage for parts in case of a partial covered loss.


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Posted 10 December 2013 - 10:55 AM

Check with your insurance co. before buying anything from the dealer.

I would buy and carry a spare before wasting it at the dealer  :spend:

 

Agree.  Don't get anything like that from the dealer.  Most insurance carrier either offer Roadside assistance as and additional coverage or already included it as part of your Comprehensive coverage.  Just check you policy jacket or call your agent if you're not sure.



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 11:08 PM

sounds like paying for Roadside assistance will be worth it for our car.

 

I thought our cars came with free roadside assistance from Ford for the first 3 years???


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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:33 AM

hmmm i knew there was.  is it for 3 years?


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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:34 AM

5 years/60K miles.

 

http://www.ford.com/...ide-assistance/


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Posted 13 December 2013 - 01:30 PM

 

It also states flat tire changes, but it must have a usable spare. We don't have a spare. I called the Roadside Assistance line and they will tow you to the nearest dealer for a flat tire.


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#19 OFFLINE   John A Smith

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 09:06 AM

Any suggestions where to buy a reasonable priced compact spare?   I will be driving cross country and this topic has me concerned. 



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Posted 06 August 2014 - 09:11 AM

I don't think a compact spare tire will work.  You need to test the tire first.  See the following post:

 

http://www.fordfusio...+compact +spare


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